Suggestions for new PC

[tux83]

Hi all,

I'm thinking about buying a new PC, I was wondering if you have some suggestions.

I have two things what most important to me.
Video editing 1920x1080 at 50 frames per second. (I have a camcorder that can record in that, so for none of my PCs can play it at full framerate)
Good for gaming, for example my current PC is not able to run BC2 :P

I have heared intel i7 is good for processor, and should have like 3x 2GB memory at least.

So what are your suggestions? :)

TuX

[Vercetti]

How much can you spend, if we know the budget, it makes it easier.

I have the i7 920, it's sooo sweet, 6GB ram. For video editing, I would get like 8 GB ram, just because you can :-)

[tux83]

Lets say up to 800/1000 euro :)

[N00ter]

intel 17 920. Easy to overclock to 3.4/4.5 gh or somehing like that :D

[N00ter]

and its sheep!
sheep?!
i mean cheap!

hehe. im not funny...

[tux83]

ok so for CPU intel i7 920.

for mainboard, what is the best to get, I used to get asus, or would you suggest something better.

[Kenzey]

CPU: Intel I7 870 (cheaper and not really slower than the expensive 920)
And i would order a boxed version of the CPU otherwise there is the possibility to get a already used one.
And go for an extra CPU cooler. i bought a Noctune ... can check this later if u interested


Mainboard:Asus P7p55D or anything above
Graphiccard: I prefer Nvidia. The GTX460 Sonic PLatinum (Palit) is a good decision cause it´s not realy slower than the expensive version like the 470. Check out Adobe.com to check what graphic cards are supported by Premiere and after effect (if u are using these)

RAM: min 8 GB with a fast timing but if u realy wanne do some ordinary stuff with movie u need ass much ass possible

HD:I prefer Western Digital. Go for a fast and big raid system with huge space on it. If u wanne spend some more on this u can buy SSD- Harddrive but SSD are realy expensive.

Soundcard: i am using a creative x-fi Music


Maybe something like this....

CPU
Coreâ„¢ i7-870S Prozessor (Art.-Nr.: HU1I39)
Coreâ„¢ i7-870S Prozessor (2667 MHz)
€ 364,-*


Mainboard
P7P55D PRO (Art.-Nr.: GUEA03)
P7P55D PRO (Intel® P55 Express)
€ 149,90*


Grafikkarte
GeForce GTX460 Sonic Platinum (Art.-Nr.: JCXHF7)
GeForce GTX460 Sonic Platinum (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460)
€ 222,90*


Soundkarte
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Art.-Nr.: KK#CWC)
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (4 x)
€ 57,90*


Speicher
DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit (Art.-Nr.: IDIFMN)
DIMM 8 GB DDR3-1333 Quad-Kit (8192 MB)
€ 179,90*


Festplatte x2
WD1001FALS 1 TB (Art.-Nr.: AEBW11)
WD1001FALS 1 TB (1000 GB)
€ 169,80*

Zwischensumme: € 1.144,40*
zzgl. Versandkosten1ab € 10,95*

Gesamtsumme: € 1.155,35*

inkl. 19% MwSt. € 184,4

[tux83]

ok thnx for the info, I will google them later :)

[JohnnyPara]

Processor:
The i930 is more interesting than the i920, because it's about the same price but faster (2,80 vs 2,68 Ghz).

I agree with Kenzey on an 8 serie processor, you can choose the i7 860 or the i7 870. They equal the performance of the i930 in games. The i7 875K has an unlocked multiplier and is €20 more expensive than the 870

BUT BE AWARE, the 8 series have a dual channel memory controller and the 9 series a triple channel, so keep that in mind when ordering memory modules.

BUT, an i5 is fast enough for today's games. i5 are dual core except for i5 750 and all have a dual channel memory controller.

Mainboard:
The i3's, i5's and i7 860, 870, 875K use a 1156 pin mainboard. The rest of i7 a 1366 pin mainboard so pay attention on this.

Memory:
Over 4GB memory is only usefull if you use a 64-bit windows.

Graphics:
I would also go for nVidia GTX460.

FINAL NOTE: Intel has announced pricedrops soon, so keep in mind.

The source for all this info is www.hardware.info , my favorite hardware site and magazine.

Good luck on choosing.

[SMuNT]

just little tips:

http://tweakers.net/archieven/tag/best+buy+guide/ ÂÂ*---> i always use these guides as a base (im not that techy ;) ) tweakers is very very usefull!
www.azerty.nl --> nice and cheap...in my experience pretty good and helpfull

GL!

[tux83]

Ok I checked the best buy guide as Smunt said, but they give two systems that are with AMD and Radeon.
Are they really that bad or is intel/nvidia much better?

http://tweakers.net/reviews/1786/3/tweakers-punt-net-best-buy-guide-editie-september-2010-game-en-high-end-gamesysteem.html

I also think Solid state disc is more expensive, most mainboards today have RAID possibilitie, so I think I will for some RAID config.
And 8GB RAM wont be problem, I will get Windows7 64bit.

What I configured myself in pricewatch is this:
http://tweakers.net/gallery/64108?wish_id=93102#tab:wenslijst

Let me know what you think of it :)

[SMuNT]

Hey Tux,

Good to see my links are helpfull, amd/radeon config are imho pretty good!
I really was a nvidia fanboy but when i bought my pc last year the amd/radeon config gave me so much more bang for bucks.
So for me it was a price issue, had a budget and with that budget i got a better and faster pc with the amd/radeon setup.
Especially on a gaming pc (therefore the best buy guide prefere amd/radeon setup).
But...i read you want to do videoediting etc. i think (but not sure) i was told or i read somewhere that for videoediting etc the intel is the prefered choise.
So it depends mostly on the purpose you have for the pc and your budget.
Maybe somebody with a more techy background can help you further.
GL!

Grtz SMuNT

[tux83]

Do you guys also have some suggestion for case / powersupply / fans
Looks I dont care about, just a simple one with enough space for my HDDs etc

Also the mainboard I choose has possibility for SLi do I need a cable for that, or is it included with the videocard?

[JohnnyPara]

If you buy a power supply that is SLI ready (in the case of AMD its called crossfire) then the cables come with the supply. The fact that it supports SLI means that it's a powerful supply.
A SLI or Xfire bridge is mostly with the graphics card.

[N00ter]

! The 920 van easely be Overclocked to a lot more HZ than the 930 !
its cheaper and better!
Sorry para :D

[DrakoVII]

The 920 is outdated, they don't even sell it anymore according to the big electronics stores I've checked. The 930 is better by default and cheaper, plus, don't you think the 930 is capable of being overclocked as well? Anyhow it's your mistake to make.

[tux83]

My list so far:
3x Samsung EcoGreen F3EG, 2TB Serial ATA ÂÂ*€ 99,- ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 297,-
1x Intel Core i7 930 ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 245,-
1x GeIL Black Dragon GB38GB1600C9QC DDR3 SDRAM ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 182,03
1x Asrock X58 Extreme3 Socket 1366 mainboard ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 166,28
1x Palit GeForce GTX 460 Sonic Platinum (1024MB GDDR5) € 249,90
ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ*Totaal ÂÂ*€ 1.140,21

Links:
Samsung HDDs (http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/857/253344/samsung-spinpoint-f3eg-desktop-class-hd203wi-vaste-schijf-2-tb-intern-3-5-sata-300-5400-tpm-buffer-32-mb.html)
Intel Core i7 930 (http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/912/258742/processor-1-x-intel-core-i7-930-2-8-ghz-lga1366-socket-l3-8-mb-doos.html)
GeIL Black Dragon DDR3 SDRAM (http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/750/259082/geil-black-dragon-quad-channel-kit-geheugen-8-gb-4-x-2-gb-dimm-240-pins-ddr3-1600-mhz-pc3-12800-cl9-1-6-v-ni.html)
Asrock X58 Extreme3 mainboard (http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/844/263314/asrock-x58-extreme3-moederbord-atx-ix58-lga1366-socket-udma133-serial-ata-300-raid-esata-2-x-gigabit-ethernet.html)
Palit GeForce GTX 460 (http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/971/290624/palit-gtx-460-sonic-platinum-grafische-adapter-gf-gtx-460-pci-express-2-0-x16-1-gb-gddr5-digitale-visuele.html)

They are all the azerty shop Smunt mentioned, only the videocard is not in stock.
can someone look here to give me advise what other card I can take, or should I wait till it's in stock.

http://azerty.nl/producten/zoek?GROEP_ID=971&p_tab=8&v_uitgebreid=off&PAGINA=1&SORTERING=id_asc&LEVERTIJD_MAX=-1&VERFIJNING_2975[188166]=on&VERFIJNING_2975[188156]=on&VERFIJNING_2975[197638]=on&VERFIJNING_2975[200884]=on&VERFIJNING_2974[47874]=on&VERFIJNING_2974[188165]=on&VERFIJNING_2974[416]=on&VERFIJNING_2974[189418]=on&VERFIJNING_2974[67916]=on&presentatie=miniatuur-lijst

[C4b4nossi]

very good choice so far.

[tux83]

ok the videocard is not in stock, i would like to order some things taht are in stock so I have it quick :)

if I had to choose between this 3, which is the best:

- Gainward GeForce GTX 465 - Grafische adapter - GF GTX 465 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1 GB GDDR5 - Digitale Visuele € 241,22
- Palit GeForce GTX 470 - Grafische adapter - GF GTX 470 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1.28 GB DDR5 - Digitale Visuele € 279,73
- Gigabyte GV N470D5-13I-B - Grafische adapter - GF GTX 470 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1280 MB GDDR5 - Digitale Visuele € 283,73

I think I will go for this case:
http://azerty.nl/producten/product_detail/1044/252897/cooler-master-cm-690-ii-advanced-midtowermodel-atx-eps12v-ps-2-zwart-usb-esata-audio.html

Can someone help me with a power supply? like how many Watt do I need? what should I check for.

[tux83]

anyone?

[N00ter]

Palit GeForce GTX 470 - Grafische adapter - GF GTX 470 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1.28 GB DDR5 - Digitale Visuele € 279,73.
This one is good enough i geuss, but there isnt much differebce between de one of 279 and 285. I would always go for the one slighty better, so ill take te 285.

[tux83]

the diff between them is:
pallit has has 2x dvi 2x mini-hdmi 1x dsub
gigabyte has 2x dvi 2x mini-hdmi 1x hdmi

[tux83]

think i will go for gigabyte, since it has hdmi, and with future monitors its more common.

[N00ter]

jep, your right. hdmi is for he nice HD screens :D

[tux83]

ok I ordered my new system :)


WD Caviar Green WD20EARS - HDD - 2 TB - intern - 3.5" - SATA-300 -buffer: 64 MB ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* 3x ÂÂ*€ 321,63
Processor - 1 x Intel Core i7 930 / 2.8 GHz - LGA1366 Socket - L3 8 MB - boxed ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ*€ 253,68
GeIL Black Dragon Quad Channel Kit - 8 GB :4 x 2 GB - DIMM 240-pins - DDR3 - 1600 MHz ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 204,35
ASRock X58 Extreme3 - Mainboard - ATX - iX58 - LGA1366 Socket - UDMA133, Serial ATA-300 (RAID) ÂÂ*€ 175,42
Gigabyte GV N470D5-13I-B - Grafische adapter - GF GTX470 - PCI Express 2.0 x16 - 1280 MB GDDR5 ÂÂ*€ 283,73
Be quiet! Pure Power BQT L7-530W - PowerSupply - ATX12V 2.3 - 530 Watt - actieve PFC ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 65,66
Cooler Master CM 690 - Midtowermodel - ATX - black - USB/FireWire/Audio/E-SATA ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 81,04
Cooler Master Vortex Plus - CPU Cooler ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* ÂÂ* € 21,90

[JohnnyPara]

Very nice system, good choice.

Don't tell me you're keep playing Heroes on such a system (like Mc Kane ÂÂ*:P ÂÂ*) This system requires BC2 en MOH.

[tux83]

I will consider it ÂÂ*:D

[tux83]

got my new PC today :) installed all the hardware, only I dont get video on my monitors, let me see what I might have forgotten :P

[tux83]

FAN on the GFX card is working, Just read the card needs minimum 550Watt PSU and mine is 530Watt grr, so probably have to get another PowerSupply

edit tried an older videocard, also no video :S

edit2, finally got video :D I forgot 2 powercables to the mainboard :$

[tux83]

It's all working now :)

[Vercetti]

Nice, system looks very awesome!
Can you play BFH with it? ÂÂ*:lol:

[tux83]

Lol ofcourse, everything on high now, AA looks awesome :P

Got some suggestions for other games? Is it worth buying BC2 or are you stopping with that when MOH and COD are coming out?

[Vercetti]

Not stopping BC2 or BFH, I will play all games. However, as soon as MOH comes out, my focus will be there in the beginning, same for COD.

It is worth buying all games, the first time you play BC2 on high you will be: WTFBBQ>!>!>!>!!?!?!?1

[tux83]

mm I like BBQ lol

[Vercetti]

How is BC2 :-)

OMGWTFBBQ/!?!?!?!?1010101

[tux83]

It's awesome, with everything on high still runs perfect :)